the 18 million Clinton voters are rational

I get you but let's not lump all Clinton voters together. Most of my favorite people on this blog are REAL Clinton supporters. The only ones who are acting like lunatic fringe zealots are PUMA's who are still holding out for the convention vote. These people do not represent Hillary or her other supporters. Most are naive political newbies who are caught up in the Obama hate. Sites like the racist NoKKKwarter say they are inspired by Hillary but all you see is are smears and crazy conspiracy theories (see SoCal Darlin and her search for Obama's REAL birth certificate) about Barack Hussein Obama.

I've always wondered how they manage to have a website up and running with only negative pieces about one candidate. Is Barack Obama really that interesting?

As for the primary wars that some want to keep on playing I'll just give them donuts if they are offensive posts or spam their comments with replies. The trolls around here aren't very bright so it's not as much fun as it was before. We need new trolls.

the 18 million Clinton voters are rational, down to earth true Democrats here to save us from a). ourselves b).an inadequate black man c). our delusions of not listening to Fox news talking points.

I can't believe you got mojo for this crap.

Good point

I'm a centrist whose more than a little nervous whenever I post something that isn't in line with the liberal mainstream.

Sadly, I don't think there's a truly popular, non-partisan political forum out there.

Have ya'll seen Reaper bot's  bike thread. Man it was a lovely as going to a spa. Same for the what are you doing for the fourth.

When you take the personalities out of it and talk pure issue the "gettin' along" is remarkable.

People sharing ideas. Even the disagreement is mild.

Plus at the risk of repeating. I posted a thread about the VP vetting process and the comparing Sen. Clinton with Gov Sebeiius. None on the folks on there were at each others throats. Sure they disagreed maybe bit their tongues but none of the slug fest that I've seen else where.

It's really lovely because in both cases you could actually learn something. I think I remember hearing the words about folks being fair.

LOL I'll probably go in there from here and folks will be having a screaming match. Hope not.

So why talk about it and give that site traffic?

to do with the "Hillary or McCain--NObama" morons and traitors.

It is natural to look at the vetting process for VP.And the primaries are going to come up because there are people who would be up for consideration who ran in the primaries.

Why wouldn't they?

No matter who you were for.

I don't think the quality of discussion on this site would be improved by removing everyone who doesn't toe the Democratic party line. I mean, what's your definition of troll? Is there a "troll test" you can apply with high accuracy to determine if someone is a troll? Or is this just one of those "I know it when I see it" deals? Because those are lame.

I'm new here, but it looks to me like the only time the trolls get to "hijack" a thread is when people respond to them.  If you just ignore the posts you deem trollish, chances are the thread won't be damaged. Of course I realize everyone at the site would have to have similar self-control in order for a shunning policy to have an effect...but it's something to work toward, isn't it?

Also, how is it productive to insult the people who make this site possible? If you don't like it here, why don't you go elsewhere?

Your behavior really doesn't make much sense. Unless you are just trying to start fights. In which case...you're acting like a troll.

One argument keeping them active in the site is that by engaging them, of the utility of the PUMA appeal.

Really though, I think there are true believers who will not be fully convinced until the convention.  And that is is when they will be forced to make a choice.

civil war.

After Clinton and Obama are both dead and given heroes' burials, I imagine there will still be NObama sites.

Is there some reason a discussion about Obama's VP choices -- yes, Hillary Clinton included -- can't take place without insulting other users?

Picking fights isn't going to improve this site at all. I don't understand why people keep doing it. Simple boredom?

I found them very interesting.  It's the first time in my lifetime there's been anything at all interesting about the nomination process. It's just too bad it deteriorated into almost non-stop hate speech between the more...ah..."enthusiastic"?...members of the two camps. And it's never actually been as bad as the MSM made it look. They won't be happy until people on either side start opening fire on each other with real guns, you know?

Anyway, it got a lot of people involved in the process who normally ignore it, and it exposed some interesting issues about the nomination process that may result in major changes to the way the Democratic Party selects nominees in the future. I have to say I find that fascinating. I've been a Democrat all my life and I've learned tons of things about my party during this primary season I never had an inkling about before. I didn't like everything I learned, but it was still...yeah, interesting!  

If it wasn't interesting I wouldn't be here nattering along anyway. This is the first time I've ever ventured into the blogosphere, and it's been quite the strange and intriguing journey, I have to say.

(Oh, I'm assuming you meant But the primary wars were just so darn interesting! sarcastically, and am responding to that. If you were being sincere, then I apologize; it's hard to tell intentions from the posts here a lot of the time.)

"Can't camapign" is just an excuse for "won't campaign."

You control what you do.